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 | 634055 | Jan 17, 2007 4:43am | Several times I have tried to Justify my actions using the Bible - we should not need to Justify anything using the Bible - because Christ tells us what is right and wrong.
I found this passage interesting regarding how many times I have tried to justify my action.
Galatians 2:16-18
17But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
If only had I found it before I prefered my action over God and tried to find some passage in the Bible to justify what I had done. |
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|  Sponsor | Ewtn2000 | Feb 3, 2007 11:00am | Note from the NAB bible on this verse:
A minister of sin: literally, "a servant of sin" (cf Romans 15:8), an agent of sin, one who promotes it. This is possibly a claim by opponents that justification on the basis of faith in Christ makes Christ an abettor of sin when Christians are found to be sinners. Paul denies the conclusion |
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| timwat | Aug 7, 2007 11:30am | 634055:
A principle of Bible study - or studying any old document with a different original audience - is to identify context and allow that to guide our interpretation.
In the case of Galatians and the balance of Paul's letters, Paul uses the term "Justify" and "Justification" to refer to an objective declaration in God's eyes of our guilt or innocence with regard to eternal salvation.
Specifically, in Galatians 2 Paul is stating that our "Justification" - our objective status of being "Not Guilty" before God - is secured by faith in Jesus Christ and not by the weight or volume of our obedience to the Old Testament Law.
So Ewtn2000 is on the money, Paul in Galatians isn't really talking about what you're wrestling with at all. But that's not to say God's Word has nothing to say about justifying one's actions in space and time, our behavior and responses and speech with others. He has a lot to say, but without more detail of what you're going through and what you're referring to, it's difficult for me to respond with any more detail.
Blessings,
Tim |
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| | | lizzy | Aug 15, 2007 8:04pm | As regards the teachings of the bible..it rather specificly informs us of the way we should be living our life.
It also informs us that none of us (apart from Jesus)is without sin, which is some comfort, but also an exsample of a human being that did live his life without sin..and whos only goal was to spread the word of our father
and to teach love, wisdom, healing, health and how people can live together in a win win clean enviroment.
Many people would like to believe it but feel safe in the status quo of the masses absorbing the medias political illusions of big brothers control..
He will decieve the ENTIRE WORLD..
Acts 17: 22-30
22 Paul now stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said:
Men of Athens, I behold that in all things YOU seem to be more given to the fear of the deities than others are.
23 For instance, while passing along and carefully observing YOUR objects of veneration I also found an altar on which had been inscribed
`To an Unknown God.' Therefore what YOU are unknowingly giving godly devotion to, this I am publishing to YOU.
24 The God that made the world and all the things in it, being, as this One is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples,
25 neither is he attended to by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives to all [persons] life and breath and all things.
26 And he made out of one [man] every nation of men, to dwell upon the entire surface of the earth, and he decreed the appointed times and the set limits of the dwelling of [men],
27 for them to seek God, if they might grope for him and really find him, although, in fact, he is not far off from each one of us.
28 For by him we have life and move and exist, even as certain ones of the poets among YOU have said,
`For we are also his progeny.'
29 Seeing, therefore, that we are the progeny of God, we ought not to imagine that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and contrivance of man.
30 True, God has overlooked the times of such ignorance, yet now he is telling mankind that they should all everywhere repent.
31 Because he has set a day in which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has furnished a guarantee to all men in that he has resurrected him from the dead. |
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| 3DJelly | Aug 16, 2007 8:58am | | I think if you are able to conclude that the Judge is the only one who has the right to demand justification for anything that happens in this universe, you will also find that any justification we can come up with is not only inadequate, but unnecessary. |
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| juliamajor | Apr 7, 10:54pm | | Lizzy-what the heck are you talking about? Justifying ones mistakes or brazing them out is part of the human condition- nobody likes to be called to task- even Christians. Is it wrong-? oh yeah- it is. Justifying your actions- and brother, I've done it- is self deception and hypocritical and something that Jesus takes us to task for. It's a daily struggle and requires a lot of effort to do what the Lord asks of us.But since Christ is love poured out-we know we will be forgiven and have another chance to succeed. |
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| Jossey | Apr 22, 11:51pm | juliamajor why are you asking what Lizzy is talking about?
Jesus doesnt ask us to justify our actions but to question them..for if we dont we can learn nothing. |
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